Duel (DM6)
_ Gamer
vs
_ Goljat
10 minutes, Deathmatch 3
Sat 19 July 2003 on EUnet Z Duel #2
ping pl frags name Kills Deaths RA GA
13 0 24 _ Goljat 24 9 14 8
13 0 8 _ Gamer 9 26 13 8
13 0 spec DUELMANIA KAMERA 0 0 0 0
28 0 spec rhesus•cam 0 0 0 0
37 0 spec monkey•cam 0 0 0 0
15 0 spec anacamera 0 0 0 0
46 1 spec BBB_DM_CAM 0 0 0 0
Award Score Winner(s)
Frag Streak 9 _ Goljat
Saturday 19 Jul 2003, 14:31
#1:
Adler
Kuten Paradoksi tokasee:

Nick luck
Saturday 19 Jul 2003, 14:32
#2:
Gamer
menin kait paskaks dm4s
Saturday 19 Jul 2003, 14:39
#3:
Goljat
noh voihan suikalemarmeladi, v?h? ts?g? k?vi :E
Saturday 19 Jul 2003, 14:43
#4:
Apollyon
dm6 was sad (goljat pov)
Saturday 19 Jul 2003, 15:05
#5:
Goljat
ban scripts, its ok to me :)
Saturday 19 Jul 2003, 15:16
#6:
Ken
All comments in english damnit. :P
Saturday 19 Jul 2003, 17:18
#7:
Anonymous
vittu toi goljat vois opetella tekee rj:n
Saturday 19 Jul 2003, 20:37
#8:
phil
strangely, I actually sort of liked most of goljat's applications of the frj... while gay looking, it was extremely effective; coupled with 27-30 shaft... ouch
Sunday 20 Jul 2003, 06:56
#9:
Apollyon
It sure was impressive. I havent seen anyone using the fwrj scripts so effectively on dm6 yet. But it doesn't feel "right" to me. I ask myself, can Goljat do all those jumps without a script? He probably can. But most likely not with that speed and precision. If you watch Gamer's pov you will see what i mean, mad skills too but this time without scripts and hence no perfection. After seeing this match i have to admit that it takes some skill to use the scripts in such a good way Goljat does here but who can deny that trying to to all this manually is much harder and takes so much more skill? We always claim that QW is superior to other games because the gameplay offers alot of depth. A major part of this depth are the open physics which allow us to bunnyhop, strafejump and rocket jump. But what is the QW community doing? We invented scripts for doing the rocketjumps for us, we even went to far as to put these into the server mods and nowadays you can speed up by the press of a button. If you wouldnt loose some health and hear the rocket explosion sound, you wouldnt even know you made a rocket jump. The rocket jump scripts are "newbiefying" an important aspect of QW and we should ban them soon before it is too late.
Sunday 20 Jul 2003, 08:47
#10:
Goljat
It's much easier to make comebacks with scripts on dm6, but yes it makes also easier to control the map. Scripts add speed to game, but also even a newbie/noskill like me can move like locktar with fjump scripts, yes that isn't skill. ParadokS missed two rljump against avenger on dm2 (manually) and after that specs started to yell NOSKILL, NEWBIE :)
Sunday 20 Jul 2003, 09:51
#11:
phil
Personally I would never use FRJ, it's just too unnatural to me. But I don't think it ruins the game any, only maybe it might force people to use scripts in competitive environments... Other sports have evolved similarly (basketball has went through a thousand ball-shoot postures and dribbling techniques, for example) and FRJ definitely doesn't *slow* the game pace of QW any...
Sunday 20 Jul 2003, 12:38
#12:
xhrl
goljat is becoming a beast of a dueller; and golo is a tdm-er before anything. But his test against a dm6-monster (para) will be coming up. yet he plays dm6 so well tactically...the game versus def is very good evidence of this. But playing against def or para on dm6 with even pings is not going to be an easy victory for anyone.

the scripting issue is an interesting one and should be raised on quakeworld.nu apo. your ideas deserve more of a public than just the chtv demo comments section:)
Sunday 20 Jul 2003, 14:47
#13:
Avenger
U r all stiupid!!! stop talking about scripts! if u want use it... do it! if not then dont use it! It's your choise. I have enaf reading thys lame comments!

Yeye i know my english sux (fuck off) :))))
Ksa im weating for ur next stiupid comment... kaman!
Sunday 20 Jul 2003, 17:10
#14:
billy
:)
scripts suck, kill goljat, hagge for president
Sunday 20 Jul 2003, 19:08
#15:
Hagge
k tnx billy! sad that gamer lost :[ stop talking about scripts and cry with gamer plz :<
Thursday 24 Jul 2003, 20:23
#16:
Ken
Well, since some complained, then I wont be talking about scripts. Just gonna say I agree 100% with Apollyon.
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