eh? =)

Fun old thingie to see.
Para opens pretty good but Laker ger igen f?r gammal ost.

Yea, nice to see this old game! The movement has improved greatly since this, off course! What I find more interesting though, is that the aim was utterly shitty compared to today! Movement is a developing thing, whereas aim is much more basic - put your crosshair on that dude... In this one, rls fly all over the place, and the shaft is not very stable... Why doesn't 10 hours a day produce a better shaft and rl? I don't know...

Question is how many cheats did para have here? ;)

:) I dont think u saw the demo.... Para shows excellent aim here ... both with shaft and rl ...
Lakerman plays better tactic and wins .. if u did se the demo u need 2 se it again..

must say it?s nice demos ur sending up mr raptor :) plz continue with it if u have some more :)

RaptoR: I saw the demo! My impression was that both para's and laker's shaft was nothing compared to todays "good" shafts. Wich I found strange, since they both had more day by day quake in their arms than any players today...

pecka > * all i gotta say ;) ;) ;)

hawk > pecka > * yes.

hmm i seriously doubt this is 1997-1996 as you claim, it looks more like around '99.. i see para attempts that lg door jump to gl, something which kane introduced, if i'm not mistaken, on or just before TGI

the aim here is nothing short of exceptional, rivaling today's aim..

also pay close attention to para's 7th frag, coming out of MH tunnel... super high fov? nah.. hax? ;)

LOL Phil no para wasent cheatin.. I was there when he played the demo.. yes infact para played with a very high fov at that time. Not sure what he plays with now though. I belive it was about fov 130 might have bin 125. Lakerman allways camps like that so that is what u might think laker ?would do.

I dident say aim was exceptional. I am just saying.. aim is close 2 todays aim. And there is a reson 2 ppl not movin so quick those days.. the qwcl client have changed much since then. Its alot easyer 2 move fast now.

well para never saw laker on that 7th frag, i was watching the demo with 120 fov (my usual) and i even rewatched that frag with 160 with slow motion, so its obviously just predictability

aim was very good, i can't deny that... and yeah i agree, although they didnt bunny around locktar style, 1) they wouldnt against one another out of respect (read: fear) 2) the few bunnies that they (well, from para's pov) DID do, were quite well executed

good demo all in all! (at least laker didnt win tgi for nothing)

i dont think kane made that move up with the lg?

wasnt this done when u couldnt even buny with more than 45 fps?

i rem i use to cap fps to 40-45 and i was called a cheat for bunny, no1 could do it. i think lakermna stopped b4 bunny was very popular, was only a few people in the world who knew the secret of how to do it, at the time.

isnt there a date on the demo file?

well im not all that sure that kane came up with that lg move either, but i was just trying to say that this demo is quite later than 96-97

btw, the original bunny hop article: http://planetquake.com/legacy/Articles/ZigZag/

If my memory serves me correctly, Lakerman and Kane both retired very shortly before the new style of bunny hopping became known. I'm not sure if anyone even knew how to do it at the time (maybe sK-Jimbob?).

I also do not recall Kane being the originator of the dm6 platform rocket jump/lightning gun jump.

I think sectopod(not sure if that was his name) did a nice rj bunny from MH on dm4 i think. at TGI.

True I remember sectopod being the the first reely fast bunny hopper. I even think he was the first 2 do the MH from dm4 RL jump. I have a demo where he plays sujoy. Where sujoys says how the hell can u move so fast. heheh

Maby para know when demo is from.

Nope it was Wilco and Nator from IoP (icon of pain) who came up with the lg trick on dm6. Atleast they posted the first demos of it...

yeh i rem the secto move, was realy somthing new at the time.

IRRC giant introduced that jump from LG to GL, ask methos about it.

the demo is from june in 1999, I know this coz I lived right next to para and raptor :)

/me sl?r rappe med en huskekage

Its cann't be around 97-96, cos QuakeWorld 2.3 is out at august 28, 1998.

if the aim doesn't seem spectacular.. well.. maybe it was because they didn't have the FPS/cpu power to have perfect gaming like today...

Wasn?t it dizzy who thought sectopod how to bunny?

taught even

Wow, old stuff. Movement was very poor for being midd 99'.. in speedrunning, in 99' the movement was already amazing by some of the players. :)